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| | Whether you like it or not, it could be unbelievably intrusive and wrong to heal somebody who has not asked for it. You could be interfering with the entire Karmic balance of their overall existence. You could be interfering with stuff they have to work out, messing with their balance in relation to others, fooling with their destiny. Now for myself that's not a path I would take. I am exceptionally careful who I heal and why. There are a few rare exceptions for which I break this rule. There is a person on these boards has demanded I stop healing them...so I went to what I could do next...safe transition....and after I had spent quite a few minutes glaring Raphael in the face (not comfortable if you are ever contemplating it) I retreated to healing despite the demand the sufferer placed on me. I also heal for children and animals who cannot ask for themselves. But be very aware, when you heal you either work with or against destiny. When you work -with- destiny everything goes well. When you work against it you could be doing something very evil, without knowing it. Some of us are born to die. I myself lost a son at eleven weeks old. And I know that was right. I know it was right for me...but I do not, to this day (thirty years on) know why it was right for him. And mayhap I never will. Perhaps for a short time I collided with a soul whose destiny I will never know. We may not enter into the actions of god/desses. We are not privy to what they know. And we do not own the souls we meet on the journey. If you do not think of these things every single time you engage in a healing, then you are not a responsible healer. You should stop, and speak with some-one you feel is. Healing is a craft. Not just a gift. If you do not engage with somebody more experienced, then you're looking for trouble. The ego is a terrible thing till you get it under control. It feels good to fix folk doesn't it? Wait till you meet somebody who can transfer, and then wonder why you feel so lousy. Wait till you meet a person who knows reflect then wonder why you don't know your own thought patterns. If you are new come to these forums...talk first. Offer your love, sympathy and energies later. You can always make good noises first. Simply wait....and talk...and listen. Loadsa love
There are thing you notice in this life and things you don't. When you notice and acknowledge the important things in life you enrich it. When you notice and acknowledge the unimportant things in this life it proves you pay attention. When you do neither what are you????
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| Jan, thank you very much for posting this. I know I am not a healer, but thank you for bringing up the other side we don't always think about. I agree with you wholeheartedly, for example, my mom has been sick, but I get the feeling it is to help her mellow and let go of the anger. For that reason I could not ask for healing for her. I do hope that no one thinks I don't love my mom. I do love her dearly. Jan, thanks again for the wonderful lesson and for pointing out the issues we should think about before offering healing. I usually just offer a prayer for the individual that way the higher authority makes the decision. Thanks again. You are such a wealth of information and that is why I love seeing you post in here!! Thanks again, Jackie
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| True. When I heard my boyfriend had knocked his arm out of line yet again, it fit with a synchronicity pattern I'd been noticing. I was sorry it happened to him though (he was only washing his hands yet he dislocated an old sporting injury about half-an-hour after I left him when I was staying for the weekend!  ). He's been off work since March though I think he is getting too used to the life of leisure and needs to get back to work before he is found out. I think he has convinced himself that it is never going to get better because he still wants the time off!
However I am giving him healing for it, I was up with him this week and when we were cuddling I felt an ache in my feet which went away as soon as I let go of him; not sure if I was channelling the pain out of his body or whether I was just empathising with it. I daren't give him a massage (like I sometimes do for my mum) as I don't want to knock it out of place by accident; but I play him a musical toy which sings:
"We will find it, we will bind it
We will stick it with glue glue glue
We will stickle it, every little bit of it
We will make it like new new new..."
If you can teach someone to hate, you can also teach them to love - Corrie Ten Boom
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears - Laurel Burch
Heaven receive its feathered guest - Mavis Crow has flown the nest! (after Auden)
Where there are crows, there there is magic. The crow is a symbol of good luck - she is the cleaner of the world. (native peoples) |
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| | Jan I understand what you are saying, but you have me thinking. When I pray - I always pray for those I love (to keep them safe and well), for friends, family and neighbours that are sick (to make them better and if that is not possible that they are not in pain and not afraid) and for those who are bereaved that they should find comfort. I pray for all sorts of people - people here, people on my baby board, friends, friends of friends....is this a bad thing??? I couldn't possibly ask them all if they mind, but it's all done with a good heart. Is this interfering with karma??? Do I need to protect myself (I never imagined that I need to protect myself during prayer.) I also send love to the babies I lost and ask that next time I get to keep my baby is this wrong??? Sorry for so many questions - I'm on a steep learning curve in my life right now and just trying to understand - I get so confused at times Thank you. Michelle xx |
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| Angelbaby - Compassion is one thing we all ought to feel for anyone. Whether the spirit listens to our pleas for help - or is meant to listen - is another.
I would assume (as I know myself) that many people who are undergoing illness hate every minute of it and only those of us who are self-aware enough to realise that we are being tested or that it is karmic etc. etc. Pain is unpleasant whether karmic or not and even seeing an injured bird has moved me to tears even though it was beyond any help I could give it. The time I felt sorry for someone I disliked intensely was when he was undergoing an unpleasant operation in hospital and I prayed for a speedy recovery for him. I still believe that he is (over)due an awful lot of negative karma, but should he be struck down with a horrible painful disease tomorrow that won't stop me feeling compassion and sending healing energy his way. His karmic chickens are about to come home to roost in a big way anyway, so such a disease would be over-egging the pudding.
Thus I would definitely pray for help for people. What form it takes is another matter. Two years ago I was as happy as Larry, but then I had a mighty tumble into depression, and it took two years to figure out that it was meant to happen so that I could learn, strengthen myself and emerge from the chrysalis a beautiful butterfly rather than the naive caterpillar I had been before. Coming out of it I have lost absolutely nothing that I had before I went into it, and I have emerged knowing myself and others more intimately than I would have done had I not been ill for so long. I have not even lost the one thing I held more precious than anything; I originally prayed, in fact, that God would give him wisdom, which is probably what I was meant to ask for at the time and what I believe he and I have both gained. (NB "He" is not my boyfriend, he is whom I consider my mentor; I used to think I fancied him before I realised what it was about him that made him so special. In a past life he was either my father or my husband; given the divination exercise I've just performed I believe it was the latter; though in this life there is a gap of forty years and about forty miles between us - though when we met properly for the first time in this life he seemed to recognise me!)
If you can teach someone to hate, you can also teach them to love - Corrie Ten Boom
The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears - Laurel Burch
Heaven receive its feathered guest - Mavis Crow has flown the nest! (after Auden)
Where there are crows, there there is magic. The crow is a symbol of good luck - she is the cleaner of the world. (native peoples) |
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| | There is a very big difference between praying for somebody's well-being and greater good to a deity you love and trust, a engaging in active, directed healing. When you pray, as Jackie said, you leave the decision to a power beyond your own. When you heal you do so as an Act of Will. You make a conscious choice to use skills, energies and talents in a fashion which may alter the course of another person's life. So I think having a chat with whoever you regard as a Higher Power and drawing their attention to specific folk in your environment or even around the world is OK. What would probably be inappropriate is telling that Higher Power what you think would be to the individual's own good. I think praying in a general sense for well-being and so on is fine. Loadsa love
There are thing you notice in this life and things you don't. When you notice and acknowledge the important things in life you enrich it. When you notice and acknowledge the unimportant things in this life it proves you pay attention. When you do neither what are you????
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| | Thank you - I question myself constantly these days (very tiring) and had a bit of a wobble then.
Love and hugs Michelle x |
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| | Jan - wonderful topic!! Even for some of us who have been around for awhile, our hearts can hope so much that someone will do better, that sometimes that hope, or those kind thoughts can cross that line. It is necessary to know if that person is truly open to healing, even if you are sure of their personality, etc., that permission, in itself, can help someone in their own process. Like Jan, animals and children cannot always give this permission. So, please, everyone, when asking for healing for others, please post whether you have their permission, or not. Makes a huge difference between sending healing energy, or something more along the lines of good thoughts and prayer. - Anne -
"Compassion and love are precious things in life. They are not complicated. They are simple, but difficult to practice." Quote by Tenzin Gyatso, the Fourteenth Dalai Lama of Tibet |
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